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This is why where you get your theology from matters.
it's obvious you didn't understand what she was explaining… one of the things she said is let's say eventually you die and found out that there's no heaven or hell.. the fact that the consciouness of wanting to go to heaven has made you abstain a lot for ill-mannerism and evil that the laws of the land fights… so it's a win win in for that usecase..
It's never the fear of hell that is making a believer love God more and wants to be better.
Yes thats what they do.They conflate religion and morality.The basis of religion itself is largely immoral.
Interesting conversation bro enjoyed every bit of it. My perspective as a Christian is that Christianity is not a "religion" Christianity is reconciliation and relationship between God and the zenith of His creation who carry His likeness and image.
My relationship with God isn't merely predicated on "gaining a free ticket to heaven" but because I want to genuinely have a relationship with my Creator and spending eternity in His presence in a place called Heaven after my work and time is up on earth is just a by product of that
Hell is simply a place "outside the presence of God" where individuals who don't want or see a need to have a relationship with God will "chill" after this life.
God didn't create humans like robots that he programmed to be forced to obey a list of instructions they're given or an algorithm but He created us human beings who carry His image (PS: were you and I get your "morality or moral compass from") convo for another day
He gave you and I a "free will" to choose
If you don't fancy reconciliation and a relationship with your Creator He won't force You because He has given you a free will but the consequences of that is eternal separation from Him because out of His unfathomable Love He respects your choice not to be reconciled back to Him after providing a way to do so after sin entered the Earth. And so he'll allow you to "chill" in a place "outside his presence" a place called Hell
There's no point arguing whether Heaven or Hell is real. Everyone will find out either way. all a matter of time. All that Christianity offers is reconciliation and relationship with God and spending eternity in His presence
I love You brother♥️
Choose wisely!
Dull africans belives a book story 😂😂😂 a cartoon story called jesus 😂😂😂😂 ode
Now Mc lively you missed the woman’s point there’s no where in the Bible that says you can’t be Good to ur neighbors if you’ve ever read the damn Matthew 5 which is the sermon the mount Jesus preached 3 core messages
1. Be merciful kind towards others
2. Righteously strict with your self
3.and sercetly pure towards God
Now when you talk about living life to the fullest I’d like you to name one apostle or early church father who didn’t live life to the fullest when you talk about religious people being bad it’s coming from the fact that you feel your better off than they are it is in human nature to be wicked go read bck a 100 century b4 us and see even in our generation people are wicked that is not what Christianity or even Islam teaches pple choose to disobey the core teachings of both religions and you blame it on religion it’s like a doctor killing someone during an operation and you blame the operation, you pointed out countries with low crime rates yet that same country is known for fraud and sexual abuse and molestions her point was even after you are done destroying your life you died into nothingness which it’s impossible with all the evidence we have she who choose to follow Christ will lose nothing, about hell and heaven the only reason you are saying it doesn’t exist is becoz you don’t read the concept of divine justice and reward didn’t start with Christianity it as being part of human civilization do your research the Greeks Indians and Africa all believe this and we know that they hv been near death experience recorded through out history so you missed her point bro
Mc lively.. listen carefully
Yeah
It spoke to me 😊
This is so intelligent
Wisdom na water for you 💦
Are Americans hungry? Dont they have good justice systems? Don't they still have high crime rate What are you even saying
There's no truth in any religion, religion was invented by human to put fear in people and control your mind
The lady got it wrong in his analysis,the main issue is the threat and fear they put in people's mjnd, that's called violation of human rights and abuse to the human mind
I stop believing all those nonsense about heaven and hell,I don't need any religion to understand morality
The game is the game. I'm glad i left religion behind. My life has been peaceful ever since.
If heaven and hell exist scientists and acreologhist would have been there already and make us see it with camera 😂
If you say there is no hell or heaven that means there’s no God
I gets what’s she saying which makes sense all this things are helpful to control the animalistic aspect of humans but religion is just like politics reason I got out of that political viewpoint. Welcome to the simulation 😉🤣😂
BitterTruth ❤ 💯
What mc. Lively is saying is correct and true… Nigerians are religious for nothing.. Most of us have never experienced a working system.
The bible is the book of the sun (Astrology, Allegory & Metaphor)..Religion is Astro-Theology, that means we worship the sun (son)…Every religion know this..Father, Son & Divine Mother (Holyspirit) Osiris, Horus, Isis…Jesus (Sun) Mithra(Sun) Horus (Sun) Krishna (Sun)…The soul doesnt die but will keep reincarnating till our soul learn & evolve..Love is the greatest commandment..Wake up from your mental slavery..
That babe was just coping, everybody loves their comfortable prison…Hell & Heaven dont exist even the pope & pastors know this but they need to use fear as control so we dont know we are God…Love is my religion, any other thing is dogma & doctrines that dont exist..
I'm flabbergasted that you, a lawyer didn't know that the law you practice has its early roots from the said holy books. Check your Google sha.
Yet you studied the same practice 'they' brought in.
That looks like selective, innit?
As for the part of slaves, people who do 9-5 are 'slaves' in a sense, not the idea of being physically bonded as being a slave.
I will drop this here too:
Hell is a constant decision to separate from God. Those who are separated have an emptiness within themselves nothing in the world can fill.
(Research on this diligently)
Also, the Bible inclines that it's not everyone that says Lord God but are dubious will make heaven.
The Bible is a constitution for how the Kingdom of God operates who truly believes, just as the law of every land does. Shikena!
The lady made perfect sense.
My only problem with religion is that all the big pastors and imam can’t tell their members to fight for the country or reject money from politicians.
Pure and Hard Truths. MC Lively, Well Done. Some things are mind bugging but we're not supposed to ask questions. Now, that's even more disturbing.
Awakening
I think you don't get her point. If you are a Christian and you find out there is no heaven, you actually don't lose anything. This response only point out that you don't even know what it means to be a Christian. Christianity is not a religion. Plus, you don't even understand the Bible. Bro, sorry, you don't even know what you are talking about actually, its better to seek knowledge. I rest my case.
Even before the birth of Christianity ppl who push this Christianity kee and torture ppl to believe in it took ppl Into slavery inverd ppl land changed turned there faces against each other all in the name of Christ way no even send am to do that kind thing, my own is there is a God buh the way ppl and pastors has preach and talk about it I things there is a big fact lie in it
2 baba said it the heaven we are asking for is here and the hell is here and both exist in our mind and whatever we do out of our mind is what we suffer or enjoy if u make it a heaven u enjoy if u make it a hell u will suffer for it
Thank you very much u done talk my mind
I can't say you're completely right or completely wrong. If what you say is right, nigeria is a country that is under police where you can get away with crimes, most especially if you have the wealth to shut people up.
I believe we are mostly guarded by law of cama. As yoruba would say "eni gbin ebu ika omo re aje nibe"
You nailed it❤
Thanks McLively…I stopped being played by religion… Here in USA my eyes opened after seeing see a working system.
100,000 %, nobody really knows what happens after death. Just live your life beautifully and lawfully plus focus on what you can control; then leave the rest to your Creator/Universe
lol…. When I hear are spiritual people, I Dey always laugh, Una no go believe say oyinbo people are more spiritual than Africa…
@7:52 you are damn wrong. I live in one of the best countries in the Europe, yet I still long to see my GOD and King some day. Guy, I used to know you in those days in ife, from afar though, how soon have you changed.May the eyes of your understanding be opened
E go pain me say I no plant the root of all evil for my yard
The fear ideology was what made the missionaries succeeded in their assignment and it same that's making the religion produce multi billionaires who never had any life before becoming pastors.
My lord MAY I,you're very correct.
Are you open to having an open discussion with me on this topic ? I would like to answer all your questions.
If you're honest without an agenda, then lets do this
One question
Have christianity succeeded in reducing the evil in the world?😂
Its a yes or no question
MCLively, you need to know more about what Everlasting Life or Eternal Life means biblically and to a Believer (NOT a religious person) first.
You spoke as if all Christianity is about being Religious! NO! It's more than that.
But, I would not blame you if you don't understand yet, I only pray and hope you come to that understanding before eternity comes knocking.
Why do we even think that the colonizers will tell us that heaven exists if it really does, they don’t like us that much
It’s just to keep us in a cage
I wrote this few days ago “The colonizers called us black.They called us dirty.
They looked at us and decided we were less deserving of dignity, knowledge, and even humanity.
So I wonder if they truly believed heaven existed, would they have been so eager to tell us about it?
Maybe heaven was never meant to be a destination.
Maybe it was a promise designed to make suffering easier to swallow. A beautiful story whispered to the oppressed: “Endure this life; your reward is waiting somewhere beyond it.”
Perhaps that is the bait to keep the cage invisible.
Because what better way to keep people from breaking their chains than to convince them that the chains are temporary?”
We don’t even like ourselves that much
MC Lively, do you know that you are more knowledgeable about what God and Christ stand for than the so called men of God, fathers of faith/pastors. All of them na thieves.
you are really becoming serious – kilo shele – you used to be very unserious. myself i dont resonate with all these conversations